We had 11, at our last chapter meating...

No 10, Karen just moved.

You had a woman in your group?

Of course there was a woman,

they don't discriminate, not when it comes to abuse.

And this has nothing to do with being gay.

What this is, is priest using the collar to rape kids.

Kids, boys and girls.

PHIL SAVIANO AGE 11

I was 11.

And I was preyed upon by Father David Holly.

In Wester.

And I don't mean prayed for, I mean preyed upon.

Are any of you catholic?

I was raised catholic,

now I go to my wife's Presbyterian Church.

I'm lapsed, I go to Church of my grandmother sometimes.

It's safe to say we were all raised catholic, but now...

Not so much.

Ok, well let me tell you...