There's no one that knew Cliff,

toward the end, that didn't realize that

he was heartbroken by what had happened.

And Cliff came over to my house

and he said 'They're calling us child molesters.'

He says, 'That will never wash off.'

But Mr. Skilling you don't believe that.

I don't believe what?

You don't believe that the press and everybody

calling Cliff Baxter or yourself or anybody

on the Board of Directors,

denigrating or tainting you,

you don't think it's accurate

is what you're saying to us here today.

I do not believe...

I did not do anything wrong that was not in the interest

In all the time that I worked for Enron Corporation,

it was in the interest of the shareholders of the company.

Ultimately, who was responsible for the downfall of Enron?

Only a few years ago,